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  1. Well ain’t that just dainty. MS must be desperate. XP users are not going to give up quite that easily with such an application available.

  2. Without going into the pros and cons of the need to update XP how is MS going to deliver this notification on XP machines? via windows update? or is MS just going “invade” a users PC and insert a pop-up [similar to known spywareintrusion ware]

    Will this be a single event or will it continue to be active for an extended period of time?
    If an inserted [unwanted] intrusion will MS be pulled up for inserting this [malware like] onto a users PC?

  3. Lighten up Ernie. If you aren’t going to get into the pros and cons, then stop getting into the cons without getting into the pros. MS is not going to reverse itself and suddenly decide that XP is sticking around. So notices regarding its imminent demise are not only appropriate but necessary. How anyone using XP does NOT know about the deadline remains a mystery to me.

    Other articles about this popup have made it clear that it will be the result of an update. So you may stop fretting about an “invasion.” This is in no way similar to spyware. Windows has all sorts of pop-ups (“The Disk is Drive X: is not formatted. Format now?”) I doubt you have regarded any of them as being equivalent to spyware. Just because you are pissed about having your 14 year old operating system taken away, you should not lose all rationality. The migration tool and the warning pop-ups are welcome additions to this admittedly painful process, and I only wish they were both here much earlier.

    If you disagree, try saying why, in a clear and cohesive manner, instead of blindly hating change just to be in with the in crowd.

  4. dmsachs I fully accept that XP has reached the end of [supported] life and have no qualms as to this and this is why I did not want to go into the pros and cons of this. BUT there are folks out there who cannot afford to update to a newer OS or PC.

    2 of my desktops run Win 7 Prof one of which runs XP in a virtual mode, 1 runs Vista and the oldest runs XP home premium. I keep the older Pc’s mainly to enable me to refresh my memory when someone has a problem before I [try] and fix their machines.

    Your example of the disk in drive x is in no way a comparison. This facility is built into the OS. If thisany pop-up is installed without the users permission then , IMHO, this would be an intrusion. If this comes as a [normal] update then this can be stopped from installation.

    My concerns are for both my virtual OS and my XP PC as well as the other 5 PC’s I maintain for other [elderly and a newbie] folks who are not in a position to buy a newer PC.

    One of these PC’s belongs to a 96 year old who would panic if this was just foisted onto his PC as would at least one of the others who is in her 80’s. A third, who is in his 60’s, got his first PC given to him less than a month ago by someone who was getting a newer PC. This gifted machine runs XP Professional.

    Also If this iswas a continual pop up they [along with lots of other folks] will eventually get used to this and start to ignore it and just click OK to remove it from their desktop. This wouldcouldwill lead to further problems. If they are out on the web and a pop-up appears they will be more inclined to click it thus install malware onto there PC’s. Whereas at the moment, for the sake of simplicity, I have taught them to close their browsers down, which is the easiest way for them to avoid clicking any part of a pop-up.

  5. Ernie- First, thanks for responding in a calm and reasonable manner. Would that all commenters were as civil. As a consultant, I have to agree with your stated reason for keeping an XP machine around. I do the same, for the same reason. It is also the reason that the World Health Organization keeps samples of smallpox, but they don’t let just anyone have those samples. I think my popup example is absolutely valid. I don’t see any difference between popups that are “built-in” as you refer to them, and pop-ups that are added on later. If they are part of the operating system, they are valid. Else you have to be arguing that XP prior to any service packs is the only version of XP that is valid. After all, some of the popups that you refer to as “built-in” were added through updates, including SPs 1, 2 and 3. They didn’t explicitly ask the users permission, nor was there any sort of ala carte facility that let the user pick and choose amongst them. So as far as I can see, any popup, introduced by the manufacturer (in this case MS) is just as valid as any other. You may not agree with the intent, but that does not equate them to spyware or malware.

    As much as I applaud your concern for the elderly and the poor, I can’t imagine MS adjusting its business model to account for them (although for the poor, there are those current rumours of a new Bing-driven version of 8.1 being released, free or at very low cost. I think it’s a great idea,) If you are starting out with total newbies, especially those who simply need to get online to retrieve email and browse the Web, then if they are truly neophytes, you might look into some flavor of Linux. (these are newbies, with no preconceptions) Getting to the Internet remains the same (Firefox or Chrome/Chromium,) and if you want the end user to be able to increase capabilities, LibreOffice and Thunderbird will give them that path. All free, all the same as, or extremely similar to the Windows experience, all fully capable applications and with far fewer security risks. And happily, no Internet Explorer. And for ANY app you can name on the Windows side, I can offer the equivalent free app on the Linux side.

    Your last paragraph leaves me a bit stumped. I can only offer this: There is no way to account for or change human behaviour. As my father used to say: “A problem without a solution is NOT a problem. It’s just a fact of life.”

    I hope you understand where I am coming from on this issue. Your concerns are valid, and actually noble, and as far as I am concerned, easily dealt with. I have employed Linux and used/recycled hardware for many hardship clients. It is actually a large part of my time spent. The client is happy and (more importantly) compatible with the outside world, and the costs are minimal to non-existent. The fact that MS is trying to shift people away from an operating system it is on the verge of abandoning makes sense, as inconvenient as it may be. Life moves on and OSes evolve. I actually like 8.1, though I ignore the Metro side entirely. I think of the desktop side as Win 7 SP2.

    I hope I have made my views clear, and that I have possibly helped you with some of your concerns.I also hope I have not offended- David

  6. David
    No offence given or taken.

    You make a good, valid argument. As I previously said I have no hang-ups regarding the stopping of support for XP it has run its course as a primary OS but [also] as I said lots of folks will get into a frazzle over this pop-up. Lets agree to disagree over this. Also let agree to disagree over whether it is or isn’t an intrusion.

    As for Linux. I have no experience with this in any of its [modern] make-ups. I did briefly tinker with it a few years ago but got side tracked elsewhere and have never really thought about it since other than a passing thought. A failing on my part. This is one of the reasons I do not suggest Linux to the folks whose PC’s I maintain. If they had problems I would be unable to helpshow them unless it was a hardware based fault.

    Regarding the complete newbie. He has started going to the library where they give computer lessons to locals [how to use MS Office and go onto the internet etc]. This, once again, has it drawbacks. The OS’s used there are either Windows XP or Vista. To suggest Linux [any flavour of of it] to him would only get him more mixed up than he is at the moment.

    As for the software available for Linux. I know that there is a vast selection of free programs out there, as there is for windows [upto win 7 at least]. At the moment, if possible, I [try] to get folks away from Office [MS] and other “well Know” products and onto the likes of Libre Office or Open Office and other programs of this ilk [a good one is Kingston Office which has a lot of similarities to MS including the ribbon] as well as the likes of paint etc. It is maybe time for me to rectify this omission on my part and maybe think about trying to teach them to dual boot XP & Linux and use Linux for the internet whilst XP would be kept away from the internet.


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