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		By: Gregg L. DesElms		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thewindowsclub.com/photopus-photo-editing-software#comment-31543&quot;&gt;Ankit Gupta&lt;/a&gt;.


And I&#039;ve explained, earlier, too, that that&#039;s bad journalism. Get a book on it, or go to school, or read an article: Do whatever it takes to learn that you must not expect the reader to know anything in advance, or force him/her to go out and find the missing facts. All articles must be complete and accurate. The phrase...

&quot;Photopus is a simple photo editing software for Windows 8 &#124; 7...&quot;

...as written, is inaccurate. Please stop being inaccurate because of what you leave out. Please be complete. Every first year journalism student in any US high school or college learns this. You&#039;ve deigned to enter the world of journalism. Do you want to do it well, or don&#039;t you?

ANKIT GUPTA WROTE: &quot;Sure all or most of these may work on Windows Vista, Windows XP, Windows ME, Windows 98, Windows 95, Windows Server, Windows 2000, Windows 2000, Windows 2003, Windows 2008, etc, too, but...&quot;

MY RESPONSE:  Oh, stop it! This particular situation has nothing to do with any of that. It&#039;s not a situation wherein the software developer says on his site that it&#039;s for WIn7/Win8, alone...


...but the site visitor is free to assume that oh, by the way, it might just happen to work on other versions, too. Quite the contrary: it&#039;s right on the front page, in two places, of the Photopus website that it&#039;ll work on &quot;Windows 7, 8, Vista, XP, 2000, 2003, 2008&quot;. Not just Win7, and not just Win8. And so your phrase is inaccurate. Period.

For you to write, then, that it&#039;s for Win7/Win8 without mentioning the others is just plainj bad journalism; and no amount of your wishing otherwise, or making excuses, will change that. And if you were a man, you&#039;d man-up to that mistake. We all make them. Only real men wear them.

This is why no serious publication (at least in the US) will even dare to hire a new, young writer who hasn&#039;t been to journalism school, no matter how seemingly promising...

...because life&#039;s too short for the editors to educate them. I used to be an editor at a serious publication, and I&#039;m sorry, but I&#039;d terminate your employment based on the writing I&#039;ve seen you do; not so much because I wouldn&#039;t be interested in teaching you as much as becauuse it&#039;s just wrong, on principle, not to absolutely require that every new writer at least knows the basics that every single journalist on the planet should know. Every time we&#039;ve gotten into one of these discussions, you are too proud and you refuse to learn. Even when it&#039;s explained to you, by someone older and smarter and more experienced, you still fight it; and just won&#039;t allow anyone to tell you anything.

You&#039;re doing it again right here, right now. If someone older and far more experienced than I -- who&#039;s forgotten more about something I&#039;m trying to do than I&#039;ll likely ever even know -- bothers to take the time to try to help me be better at it, for free, I&#039;m sure as hell going to slow down, self examine, and listen and learn. That&#039;s what grown-ups do.

Grow up.

Nothing you can say will change the incontrovertible fact that you wrote a provably and painfully obviously inaccurate thing when you wrote that &quot;Photopus is a simple photo editing software for Windows 8 &#124; 7...&quot; And that&#039;s bad journalism, just facially. Res ipsa loquitur. And nothing you can say will change that, either.

If that&#039;s okay with you, then fine, I guess. I certainly can&#039;t force you to want to be better at what you do; but it sure is hard for at least me to watch such an obviously intelligent young man require so little of himself.


I&#039;m sorry if that offends you. I seriously am... no kidding. I&#039;m not trying to do that. But if offends me that you just blow-off this very seriously important thing. Nothing -- and I mean NOTHING -- could be more important for a writer of non-fiction to ensure completeness and accuracy. That&#039;s just intuitive; shouldn&#039;t even have to be explained. So when you guys do it, and KEEP doing it, it just drives me to distraction. I want this site to be respected, and to succeed. But if you can&#039;t even bother to  BE ACCURATE when you write, then no one -- and I mean NO ONE -- is going to respect the work. Er... well... sure... slackers will; but is that really your intended audience?


[sigh] Oy. Why do I even bother. [shakes head in disbelief]



__________________________________
Gregg L. DesElms
Napa, California USA
gregg at greggdeselms dot com

Veritas nihil veretur nisi abscondi.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thewindowsclub.com/photopus-photo-editing-software#comment-31543">Ankit Gupta</a>.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve explained, earlier, too, that that&#8217;s bad journalism. Get a book on it, or go to school, or read an article: Do whatever it takes to learn that you must not expect the reader to know anything in advance, or force him/her to go out and find the missing facts. All articles must be complete and accurate. The phrase&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Photopus is a simple photo editing software for Windows 8 | 7&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;as written, is inaccurate. Please stop being inaccurate because of what you leave out. Please be complete. Every first year journalism student in any US high school or college learns this. You&#8217;ve deigned to enter the world of journalism. Do you want to do it well, or don&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>ANKIT GUPTA WROTE: &#8220;Sure all or most of these may work on Windows Vista, Windows XP, Windows ME, Windows 98, Windows 95, Windows Server, Windows 2000, Windows 2000, Windows 2003, Windows 2008, etc, too, but&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>MY RESPONSE:  Oh, stop it! This particular situation has nothing to do with any of that. It&#8217;s not a situation wherein the software developer says on his site that it&#8217;s for WIn7/Win8, alone&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;but the site visitor is free to assume that oh, by the way, it might just happen to work on other versions, too. Quite the contrary: it&#8217;s right on the front page, in two places, of the Photopus website that it&#8217;ll work on &#8220;Windows 7, 8, Vista, XP, 2000, 2003, 2008&#8221;. Not just Win7, and not just Win8. And so your phrase is inaccurate. Period.</p>
<p>For you to write, then, that it&#8217;s for Win7/Win8 without mentioning the others is just plainj bad journalism; and no amount of your wishing otherwise, or making excuses, will change that. And if you were a man, you&#8217;d man-up to that mistake. We all make them. Only real men wear them.</p>
<p>This is why no serious publication (at least in the US) will even dare to hire a new, young writer who hasn&#8217;t been to journalism school, no matter how seemingly promising&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;because life&#8217;s too short for the editors to educate them. I used to be an editor at a serious publication, and I&#8217;m sorry, but I&#8217;d terminate your employment based on the writing I&#8217;ve seen you do; not so much because I wouldn&#8217;t be interested in teaching you as much as becauuse it&#8217;s just wrong, on principle, not to absolutely require that every new writer at least knows the basics that every single journalist on the planet should know. Every time we&#8217;ve gotten into one of these discussions, you are too proud and you refuse to learn. Even when it&#8217;s explained to you, by someone older and smarter and more experienced, you still fight it; and just won&#8217;t allow anyone to tell you anything.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re doing it again right here, right now. If someone older and far more experienced than I &#8212; who&#8217;s forgotten more about something I&#8217;m trying to do than I&#8217;ll likely ever even know &#8212; bothers to take the time to try to help me be better at it, for free, I&#8217;m sure as hell going to slow down, self examine, and listen and learn. That&#8217;s what grown-ups do.</p>
<p>Grow up.</p>
<p>Nothing you can say will change the incontrovertible fact that you wrote a provably and painfully obviously inaccurate thing when you wrote that &#8220;Photopus is a simple photo editing software for Windows 8 | 7&#8230;&#8221; And that&#8217;s bad journalism, just facially. Res ipsa loquitur. And nothing you can say will change that, either.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s okay with you, then fine, I guess. I certainly can&#8217;t force you to want to be better at what you do; but it sure is hard for at least me to watch such an obviously intelligent young man require so little of himself.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry if that offends you. I seriously am&#8230; no kidding. I&#8217;m not trying to do that. But if offends me that you just blow-off this very seriously important thing. Nothing &#8212; and I mean NOTHING &#8212; could be more important for a writer of non-fiction to ensure completeness and accuracy. That&#8217;s just intuitive; shouldn&#8217;t even have to be explained. So when you guys do it, and KEEP doing it, it just drives me to distraction. I want this site to be respected, and to succeed. But if you can&#8217;t even bother to  BE ACCURATE when you write, then no one &#8212; and I mean NO ONE &#8212; is going to respect the work. Er&#8230; well&#8230; sure&#8230; slackers will; but is that really your intended audience?</p>
<p>[sigh] Oy. Why do I even bother. [shakes head in disbelief]</p>
<p>__________________________________<br />
Gregg L. DesElms<br />
Napa, California USA<br />
gregg at greggdeselms dot com</p>
<p>Veritas nihil veretur nisi abscondi.<br />
Veritas nimium altercando amittitur.</p>
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		By: Ankit Gupta		</title>
		<link>https://www.thewindowsclub.com/photopus-photo-editing-software#comment-31543</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thewindowsclub.com/photopus-photo-editing-software#comment-31531&quot;&gt;Gregg L. DesElms&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Gregg, We have mentioned it here earlier too. Since Windows 8 and Windows 7 are the latest and the predominantly used systems, we mention them. Sure all or most of these may work on Windows Vista, Windows XP, Windows ME, Windows 98, Windows 95, Windows Server, Windows 2000, Windows 2000, Windows 2003, Windows 2008, etc, too, but these OS comaptibility specifications can easily be checked out at the developers website.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thewindowsclub.com/photopus-photo-editing-software#comment-31531">Gregg L. DesElms</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Gregg, We have mentioned it here earlier too. Since Windows 8 and Windows 7 are the latest and the predominantly used systems, we mention them. Sure all or most of these may work on Windows Vista, Windows XP, Windows ME, Windows 98, Windows 95, Windows Server, Windows 2000, Windows 2000, Windows 2003, Windows 2008, etc, too, but these OS comaptibility specifications can easily be checked out at the developers website.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2014 06:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Toph		</title>
		<link>https://www.thewindowsclub.com/photopus-photo-editing-software#comment-31536</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2014 05:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thewindowsclub.com/photopus-photo-editing-software#comment-31531&quot;&gt;Gregg L. DesElms&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for your reply and the list of similar programs. Unfortunately the Live Photo Gallery is a bloatware and lacks some essential features. I don&#039;t like the so-called photo gallery feature. I keep my files well organized and even if I can&#039;t find a specific photo, I simply search my computer for that file. So I don&#039;t need Adobe Bridge, Picasa or Live Photo Editor to organize my photos.



Picture Manager was popular because of its simple interface, powerful editing tools, keeping EXIF data intact and showing the file size of the picture while editing.


I&#039;m a graphic designer and I have Photoshop installed on almost all of my devices, but for simple edits such as copping, resizing or changing the file format, using a smaller and faster program is recommended, esp on a laptop. After trying several free photo editors such as GIMP, Picasa, Live Photo Gallery and Paint dot net, I found Photoscape the best alternative for the beloved Picture Manager.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thewindowsclub.com/photopus-photo-editing-software#comment-31531">Gregg L. DesElms</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for your reply and the list of similar programs. Unfortunately the Live Photo Gallery is a bloatware and lacks some essential features. I don&#8217;t like the so-called photo gallery feature. I keep my files well organized and even if I can&#8217;t find a specific photo, I simply search my computer for that file. So I don&#8217;t need Adobe Bridge, Picasa or Live Photo Editor to organize my photos.</p>
<p>Picture Manager was popular because of its simple interface, powerful editing tools, keeping EXIF data intact and showing the file size of the picture while editing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a graphic designer and I have Photoshop installed on almost all of my devices, but for simple edits such as copping, resizing or changing the file format, using a smaller and faster program is recommended, esp on a laptop. After trying several free photo editors such as GIMP, Picasa, Live Photo Gallery and Paint dot net, I found Photoscape the best alternative for the beloved Picture Manager.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2014 01:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thewindowsclub.com/photopus-photo-editing-software#comment-31523&quot;&gt;Toph&lt;/a&gt;.


TOPH WROTE: I&#039;m already looking for a perfect replacement for the missing MS Office Picture Manager. What a wonderful little photo editing program it was. I&#039;m currently using Photoscape and I have to admit that it&#039;s a powerful program but Picture Manager was something else.

MY RESPONSE: Microsoft intended the free &quot;Windows Live Photo Gallery&quot; to replace the &quot;Picture Manager.&quot;

SEE &#124; http://bit.ly/1j6HApt

Sadly, if you&#039;re using Vista or XP, none of the &quot;Windows Live&quot; stuff is available for it anymore. But Win7/Win8 users may certainly still use it.

SEE &#124; http://photogallery.live.com/

If you&#039;re willing to use a combination of two freeware products, then these two...

* xnView &#124;  http://www.xnview.com/en/xnview/ (extended version is best)
* Expression Design &#124; http://bit.ly/1j6J9nt

....together, would easily out-perform either &quot;MS Office Picture Manager&quot; or &quot;Live Photo Gallery.&quot; It&#039;s not that I actually like &quot;Expression Design&quot; as an editor that much (I can certainly recommend other better ones), but at least it&#039;s Microsoft, which you seem to want.

If you want something that actually looks a bit more like &quot;Expression Design&quot; when on the screen, the freeware version of &quot;Zoner Photo Studio&quot; isn&#039;t bad...

SEE &#124; http://free.zoner.com/

...in fact it&#039;s actually quite good; though it engages a bit in the off-putting thing of feature-crippling its free version a bit in order to get you to buy its commercial version... just like Photopus. But unlike the free version of Photopus, there&#039;s very little that the free version of &quot;Zoner Photo Studio&quot; can&#039;t do which its commercial version can; and so it&#039;s fairly full-featured.

In a posting I make below, I list a few more free photo editors. I gave-up on the free ones years ago and finally popped for a copy of PaintShop Pro which I&#039;ve just kept upgrading and upgrading over the years. It&#039;s best-of-breed, in my opinion... but, of course, not free. In terms of just plain features and power, the open source GIMP and/or its PhotoShop-like derivative GIMPShop, are probably best-of-breed... but they&#039;ve got a bit of a learning curve. Because of that, many prefer other photo editors with freeware versions like Vicman&#039;s, or PhotoFiltre, or Paint-dot-net, or Ultimate Paint, or Pixia, or Serif Photo Plus SE, or Photo Pos Pro (that&#039;s actually a pretty interesting one, right there... used to be commercial... check it out), or PhotoScape, etc. 

I&#039;m a PaintShop Pro man, though, through and through... since back in old Win 3.1 days! No, it&#039;s not free, but it&#039;s well worth it. Just my opinion, of course. Fortunately, one needn&#039;t pay for a good photo editor.

Couple any good just plain editor with something like xnView, and you&#039;ve easily replaced &quot;MS Office Picture Manager.&quot; Easily. Exceeded it, even.


Hope that helps.



__________________________________
Gregg L. DesElms
Napa, California USA
gregg at greggdeselms dot com

Veritas nihil veretur nisi abscondi.
Veritas nimium altercando amittitur.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thewindowsclub.com/photopus-photo-editing-software#comment-31523">Toph</a>.</p>
<p>TOPH WROTE: I&#8217;m already looking for a perfect replacement for the missing MS Office Picture Manager. What a wonderful little photo editing program it was. I&#8217;m currently using Photoscape and I have to admit that it&#8217;s a powerful program but Picture Manager was something else.</p>
<p>MY RESPONSE: Microsoft intended the free &#8220;Windows Live Photo Gallery&#8221; to replace the &#8220;Picture Manager.&#8221;</p>
<p>SEE | <a href="http://bit.ly/1j6HApt" rel="nofollow ugc">http://bit.ly/1j6HApt</a></p>
<p>Sadly, if you&#8217;re using Vista or XP, none of the &#8220;Windows Live&#8221; stuff is available for it anymore. But Win7/Win8 users may certainly still use it.</p>
<p>SEE | <a href="http://photogallery.live.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://photogallery.live.com/</a></p>
<p>If you&#8217;re willing to use a combination of two freeware products, then these two&#8230;</p>
<p>* xnView |  <a href="http://www.xnview.com/en/xnview/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.xnview.com/en/xnview/</a> (extended version is best)<br />
* Expression Design | <a href="http://bit.ly/1j6J9nt" rel="nofollow ugc">http://bit.ly/1j6J9nt</a></p>
<p>&#8230;.together, would easily out-perform either &#8220;MS Office Picture Manager&#8221; or &#8220;Live Photo Gallery.&#8221; It&#8217;s not that I actually like &#8220;Expression Design&#8221; as an editor that much (I can certainly recommend other better ones), but at least it&#8217;s Microsoft, which you seem to want.</p>
<p>If you want something that actually looks a bit more like &#8220;Expression Design&#8221; when on the screen, the freeware version of &#8220;Zoner Photo Studio&#8221; isn&#8217;t bad&#8230;</p>
<p>SEE | <a href="http://free.zoner.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://free.zoner.com/</a></p>
<p>&#8230;in fact it&#8217;s actually quite good; though it engages a bit in the off-putting thing of feature-crippling its free version a bit in order to get you to buy its commercial version&#8230; just like Photopus. But unlike the free version of Photopus, there&#8217;s very little that the free version of &#8220;Zoner Photo Studio&#8221; can&#8217;t do which its commercial version can; and so it&#8217;s fairly full-featured.</p>
<p>In a posting I make below, I list a few more free photo editors. I gave-up on the free ones years ago and finally popped for a copy of PaintShop Pro which I&#8217;ve just kept upgrading and upgrading over the years. It&#8217;s best-of-breed, in my opinion&#8230; but, of course, not free. In terms of just plain features and power, the open source GIMP and/or its PhotoShop-like derivative GIMPShop, are probably best-of-breed&#8230; but they&#8217;ve got a bit of a learning curve. Because of that, many prefer other photo editors with freeware versions like Vicman&#8217;s, or PhotoFiltre, or Paint-dot-net, or Ultimate Paint, or Pixia, or Serif Photo Plus SE, or Photo Pos Pro (that&#8217;s actually a pretty interesting one, right there&#8230; used to be commercial&#8230; check it out), or PhotoScape, etc. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a PaintShop Pro man, though, through and through&#8230; since back in old Win 3.1 days! No, it&#8217;s not free, but it&#8217;s well worth it. Just my opinion, of course. Fortunately, one needn&#8217;t pay for a good photo editor.</p>
<p>Couple any good just plain editor with something like xnView, and you&#8217;ve easily replaced &#8220;MS Office Picture Manager.&#8221; Easily. Exceeded it, even.</p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
<p>__________________________________<br />
Gregg L. DesElms<br />
Napa, California USA<br />
gregg at greggdeselms dot com</p>
<p>Veritas nihil veretur nisi abscondi.<br />
Veritas nimium altercando amittitur.</p>
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